Episode #137: The SHIFT Protocol - Mastering the Art of Inner Self-Talk and Criticism with Lenora Edwards

There's something that differentiates people who stay stuck as opposed to those who break free. Lenora Edwards has seen this first-hand from her years of clinical experience. Lenora uses the S.H.I.F.T Protocol to help people break free from the critical inner voice that spirals us into negative behavior. But first, she tackled her own emotional eating disorder. Now she uses her personal experiences to help others.

Lenora Edwards, a published TEDx speaker and author, is an expert by experience in overcoming eating challenges and advocate for mindful eating and body positivity, is renowned for her innovative approach to emotional wellness and eating habits. Blending her expertise in hypnosis, Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP), and Holographic Memory Resolution®, Lenora has crafted a unique methodology that empowers individuals to overcome emotional eating by harnessing the power of effective internal communication. With over a decade of experience, she has guided countless individuals to transform their relationship with food, fostering a life of confidence, balance, and self-compassion.

Want to learn more about Lenora's work? Check out their website at https://www.dtbhorizons.com/.

Connect with Lenora on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/lenora-edwards-m-s-941b1452/.

Key Points with Timestamps

00:01:13 - Introduction of Lenora Edwards, discussing her background and focus on empowerment through speech.
00:02:10 - Craig and Lenora discuss overcoming life's challenges and providing support for those who are stuck.
00:05:17 - Lenora explains the intense rehabilitation process and the unique paths of recovery individuals take.
00:19:21 - Discussion on the mental and physical aspects of healing and how leadership qualities are tested and revealed during recovery.
00:28:00 - Craig reflects on his psychological and physical journey post-coma, illustrating the ongoing nature of leadership growth.

Transcript

00;00;00;00 - 00;00;30;20
Craig Andrews
I was in a coma for six weeks while the doctors told my wife I was going to die. When I woke up, she told me the most fantastic story. My team kept running the business without me. Freelancers reached out to my team and said, we will do whatever it takes. As long as Craig's in the hospital. I consider that the greatest accomplishment of my career.

00;00;30;23 - 00;00;51;10
Craig Andrews
My name is Craig Andrews and this is the Leaders and Legacies podcast where we talk to leaders creating an impact beyond themselves. At the end of today's interview, I'll tell you how you can be the next leader featured on the show.

00;00;51;10 - 00;01;13;18
Craig Andrews
Today I want to welcome Lenora Edwards. Today's interview is going nowhere where I intended, Lenora and I got on, jumped on zoom. We started talking, and we really regret actually not hitting the record about a half hour ago. But the direction we're going to go is a little bit different. Lenora is, she's a published TEDx speaker, is a board certified speech language pathologist, and she's devoted to empowering people.

00;01;21;21 - 00;01;22;11
Craig Andrews
And because of her background, she was interested in my journey. And that's where we ended up talking. But why wouldn't talk about today is the path of overcoming the path of coming back. Life knocks us down. It knocks everybody down. And one way or another. And one of the things that Lenora is passionate about is helping people get launched back on that path.

00;01;47;00 - 00;02;10;00
Craig Andrews
Now in this, we're going to talk a little bit about, you know, my journey. But what my hope is, is that through Lenora, as expert, I she has some nuggets of wisdom for either you or someone that you know who's stuck and needs to overcome. And so with that, Leonora, welcome.

00;02;10;02 - 00;02;18;10
Lenora Edwards
Thank you so much for having me, Craig. It's great to be here and spend time with you. And you were right. We probably should have hit recorded about 30 minutes ago.

00;02;18;12 - 00;02;22;00
Craig Andrews
Well, it's it's really interesting. So the, you know, for those that don't,

00;02;22;00 - 00;02;26;07
Craig Andrews
aren't familiar with my background, I spent three months in the hospital,

00;02;26;07 - 00;02;30;28
Craig Andrews
with, you know, initially, you know, presumably dying from Covid, then,

00;02;30;28 - 00;02;38;22
Craig Andrews
trying to nurture me back to the point where I was strong enough to go to rehab. And then the last three weeks was a rehab hospital.

00;02;38;24 - 00;02;44;18
Craig Andrews
And every day I had, you know, it's fine. It's mandatory by law. Three hours of,

00;02;44;18 - 00;02;46;18
Craig Andrews
therapy, one hour of PT,

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Craig Andrews
one hour of occupational therapy, or O.T.,

00;02;49;14 - 00;02;57;24
Craig Andrews
one hour of speech therapy. And, you know, and Lenora is is, you know, I was fascinated when I saw you because I have,

00;02;57;24 - 00;03;06;17
Craig Andrews
the, the rehab, everybody that was involved in my rehab, even, you know, inpatient and outpatient have been, you know, the stars of my journey.

00;03;06;20 - 00;03;14;14
Craig Andrews
And so it's people like you that really, were quite wonderful. And,

00;03;14;14 - 00;03;16;11
Craig Andrews
and so,

00;03;16;11 - 00;03;18;08
Craig Andrews
but you've said,

00;03;18;08 - 00;03;28;23
Craig Andrews
you know, kind of backing up to where we were going. You've seen a lot of people go down journeys similar to me. And you, you say some people make it and some people don't.

00;03;28;25 - 00;03;30;13
Lenora Edwards
Manage that.

00;03;30;16 - 00;03;43;20
Craig Andrews
With. What's that mean? What does? Because I'll just be honest. It's when we were talking, it was kind of confounding to me because I was like, what do you mean that people don't rehab? What do they do?

00;03;43;22 - 00;04;10;08
Lenora Edwards
Oh for sure. So for me, very specifically my background. So I've been a board certified speech language pathologist since 2009. And over my career I have gone from the skilled nursing facilities, which people might call sniffs or nursing homes. I've gone to the adult intensive care units. So the ICU I've been in, the neonatal intensive care units, the pediatric intensive care unit, Stepdown units, acute care school settings.

00;04;10;10 - 00;04;33;13
Lenora Edwards
And I have run the gamut of my career over the variety of areas that I've been blessed to be a part of when it comes to what you had shared with me, and a bit about your story, and also the picture that you had shared with me was absolutely extraordinary. The fact that you have this picture and you know where you were, which was an a very difficult space, you were in a hospital bed.

00;04;33;16 - 00;04;55;29
Lenora Edwards
There were other tubes involved. There were heavy medications involved to the point that you had difficulty at one point wiping your nose, but you had difficulty breathing on your own that you could not even feed yourself. So to give people an idea of how debilitated you were, that's the picture that we were looking at. And that's the picture that I've seen people in.

00;04;55;29 - 00;05;17;17
Lenora Edwards
In that case. Now to see where you are today. So now we're in 2024 and we're in August of 2024. That journey from where you were in that hospital bed to where you are, even whether it was yesterday or today, whatever you want to call it, is extraordinary because of what it took you to quite literally rebuild all of you.

00;05;17;20 - 00;05;32;18
Lenora Edwards
You had to reset your identity, your ability to know that you were able to do it, that whatever people asked of you, if they said, okay, we need you to hold your head up, okay? I want you to I want you to hold the ball, hold it out in front of you, hold it out in front of you.

00;05;32;21 - 00;06;02;16
Lenora Edwards
Your neurons and your entire nervous system was firing and wiring to restart and to build that strength. And that's extraordinary that our body is capable of that. And it's extraordinary that you have come that far to the point that now you walk, talk and maneuver all on your own. At one point, you weren't able to use your phone, which most people go, oh my gosh, to be stimulated with a phone is extraordinarily overwhelming for the brain.

00;06;02;16 - 00;06;23;01
Lenora Edwards
There's a lot going on. So when you were in the hospital that, like I said, difficulty wiping your nose, difficulty picking up a phone, a spoon when you start to pick up a phone, things that are very familiar to us and it doesn't make sense to you, your brain and your entire nervous system has to fire and wire to figure out what you're looking at.

00;06;23;03 - 00;06;55;11
Lenora Edwards
And there are people who don't make it. As in, the brain just doesn't recover the way that they had hoped. They can do certain things, but maybe looking at a phone is too much for them. They can do certain things, but maybe feeding themselves is too much for them and everybody has their own journey. Your journey from where you were, which was short of what I would consider to me at least what I referred to as an NDE and near-death experience, because you quite literally were in a coma for a period of time.

00;06;55;13 - 00;07;26;18
Lenora Edwards
You had to rebuild everything. Everything, including not just your business. I'm talking your ability to walk, talk, and function. That's an amazing thing that your brain and body were capable of doing and going well beyond what you ever thought or what other people ever thought was possible for you. When you see medical professionals, and especially for me, like I'm in the rehab setting, as in I see them in the immediate event.

00;07;26;21 - 00;07;48;04
Lenora Edwards
So within 24 hours I would see somebody. Are they able to alert? Are they able to keep their eyes open? Are they able to even tolerate a wet sponge in their mouth? Do they know what to do? Are they reflexively swallowing or are they intentionally swallowing? Those were my skills, along with understanding where they were on the scales of how engaged were they?

00;07;48;04 - 00;08;07;19
Lenora Edwards
Could they keep their eyes open and track somebody around the room? Those are things that we looked at to going to a rehab setting as an okay, you're now able to come out of the intensive care unit. You've come to a step down unit. Okay, great. You're able to sit on the edge of the bed and we can now give you small sips of water.

00;08;07;23 - 00;08;31;27
Lenora Edwards
Gormley finally being safe enough to leave the hospital that you can breathe on your own. And then navigating in a what we would consider a short term intensive rehab stay where you stay for 3 to 4 weeks and you get an hour of therapy a day. To be able to tolerate that is a lot for the nervous system because you are so debilitated, and now we're really bombarding you.

00;08;31;29 - 00;08;51;04
Lenora Edwards
We have your attention. When physical therapy, we're getting you to balance an occupational therapy and put clothes on. We're getting you to feed yourself in speech therapy or hold a conversation. Whatever the case is, it's a lot. And people don't realize how intense of an assistant attempts of an experience that is for your mind and body from going where you were.

00;08;51;06 - 00;09;12;19
Lenora Edwards
But also there are people who don't make it out of rehab in the sense of they're not safe enough to go home, they go to a stepdown unit, or they go to a skilled nursing facility and they're still not safe enough. And then they stay in a skilled nursing facility. So everybody's journey is very, very, very different. And everybody's journey is very, very individualized.

00;09;12;19 - 00;09;21;11
Lenora Edwards
And your journey is writeable. And I personally think there needs to be a parade for you every single morning that you get out of bed. Well, you just me.

00;09;21;14 - 00;09;30;18
Craig Andrews
You're very kind. I you know, when I think back to my days, especially at the rehab facility and a little bit at the,

00;09;30;18 - 00;09;33;12
Craig Andrews
the L, which was the stepdown unit,

00;09;33;12 - 00;09;35;15
Craig Andrews
before I went to rehab. Yeah.

00;09;35;15 - 00;09;38;19
Craig Andrews
You know, I look back

00;09;38;19 - 00;09;43;17
Craig Andrews
and I'm like, you know, there were days I just didn't push it hard enough. They were trying to get me in a wheelchair.

00;09;43;17 - 00;09;49;05
Craig Andrews
They're trying to get me outside. And I was just so exhausted that,

00;09;49;05 - 00;09;59;21
Craig Andrews
you know, that my time when I wasn't doing rehab, it was just so easy to to lay in bed, and I. I look back at that and I think, what if I just pushed myself a little bit harder?

00;09;59;21 - 00;10;01;14
Craig Andrews
but I just felt like I had nothing.

00;10;01;19 - 00;10;16;24
Craig Andrews
And so I don't, you know, I'll be honest, I don't particularly feel like a hero from that time because I just look at the number of times where they were like, hey, we really I mean, getting to the point where I could go to the toilet, instead of using a bedpan.

00;10;16;24 - 00;10;21;17
Craig Andrews
we had a big, you know, we had a big debate one night, and they were like, we need to have you.

00;10;21;18 - 00;10;29;06
Craig Andrews
I'm. I'm like, I'm exhausted. I don't have the energy to go over there. And they finally relented and gave me a bedpan.

00;10;29;06 - 00;10;35;12
Craig Andrews
I think that was the last time I used the bedpan. But, you know, I look back on that, and that's not a proud moment for me.

00;10;35;15 - 00;10;59;01
Lenora Edwards
For me, the way that I look at it is especially knowing what I know now, especially about the the being able to trust yourself and saying, I'm not I'm not safe to walk across the room. I can tell you right now, I'm not safe to walk across this room. And I really need a break. Allowing yourself to have and and even think about this in that moment, you were telling these sincere truth you weren't going to tell.

00;10;59;01 - 00;11;20;22
Lenora Edwards
I could do it, but I'm just going to say no. You were telling your absolute truth in that moment that you did not feel that you had the ability to do that. Now, having your entire nervous system back on line, we at the beauty of the inner critic coming right back to us. And in that.

00;11;20;24 - 00;11;42;16
Lenora Edwards
In having that inner critic come back, it's giving us that reflection that says, yeah, you could have pushed it in that moment. You really couldn't have pushed it. And it in your safest way of saying, you know what, I need help from the nurses. I need to have this just for now. It doesn't take away from anything that you did from before and it didn't take away.

00;11;42;18 - 00;12;01;03
Lenora Edwards
Thankfully, from what you did in the future, people could look at it and say, okay, maybe it was a defining moment, but at the same time, in that moment you looked and said, this isn't safe for me. I need to, I need to be okay with asking for this next level of help. This next level is using the bedpan.

00;12;01;06 - 00;12;06;17
Lenora Edwards
And that's a great thing because honestly, the other level could have been using the brief. You had the,

00;12;06;17 - 00;12;23;18
Lenora Edwards
text intelligibility or the intellect to say, that's not what I need right now. I don't need the brief. I do need the bedpan, and I need to go. And can somebody please assist me? That's a very complex sequence that people don't consider complex because of how quickly you were gaining progress.

00;12;23;18 - 00;12;44;22
Lenora Edwards
Enough to say, quite literally, to verbalize that you needed help. What kind of help did you need? You were able to indicate what kind of help, and you had the bladder control to do that. Think about that whole network, how I just broke that down and three completely different things. That's a whole system that we really take for granted that says, oh, these are things that we just do naturally.

00;12;44;22 - 00;13;06;16
Lenora Edwards
They come automatically for you in that moment. That was a lot of complex processing for your nervous system to go through. At the end of the day, when you were just really pushed hard by your physical therapist, your occupational therapist, your speech therapist, and not to mention the amount of medication that was on board to help keep you regulated.

00;13;06;19 - 00;13;22;13
Lenora Edwards
It's a really impressive thing that you were able to communicate what you needed, and that you were able to get your wants and your needs met. And then the next day, you took it as a lesson and said, you know what? That was the last day. The great thing. Amazing thing.

00;13;22;15 - 00;13;28;29
Craig Andrews
Yeah, it was I think it was it was either the next day or a couple days after that. And my team was,

00;13;28;29 - 00;13;31;06
Craig Andrews
helping me use the toilet. And,

00;13;31;06 - 00;13;41;27
Craig Andrews
the first time had been a, you know, a disaster. And this time she kind of she cheated a little bit. She said, tell you what, when you're done, you know, obviously, you know, I'd sit there and,

00;13;41;27 - 00;13;53;19
Craig Andrews
wipe and do my business, and then I would, you know, the next step was to get my shorts up and then, you know, sit back down, then transfer to the wheelchair.

00;13;53;21 - 00;13;55;19
Craig Andrews
And she said, tell you what,

00;13;55;19 - 00;14;08;26
Craig Andrews
because I think what happened the first time when I was scooting my shorts up, you know, you kind of set up on one side, pull them up, set up on the other side, and the toilet had those little horseshoe toilets, seats. And I think I hooked my shorts on the toilet seat or something like that.

00;14;08;29 - 00;14;17;02
Craig Andrews
And so the second time she's like the part if she's like, I tell you what, if you stand, I'll pull your shorts up for you. I'm

00;14;17;02 - 00;14;25;18
Craig Andrews
like, okay, that's a deal. And so the plan was I was going to stand. She pull my shorts up, I'd sit back down the toilet, and then I'd transfer over to the wheelchair.

00;14;25;20 - 00;14;44;13
Craig Andrews
Well, I stood up. She pulled my shorts up and I'm looking at the wheelchair, and I'm like, if I sit back down the toilet, I'm going to stand up again. That's hard. And so I made the decision to start heading for the wheelchair, but I never told her and I didn't have a gate built in for those. Oh eight belt is a little strap they put around your chest.

00;14;44;16 - 00;15;02;07
Craig Andrews
that apparently you can really control somebody very well if, you know, if you grab their gate belt. Well, I don't have one on. And she saves me moving in a direction she didn't anticipate. And the only thing she grabbed was the back of my shorts. She grabbed the back of my shorts, yanked them up to my shoulders, and guided me into the wheelchair.

00;15;02;09 - 00;15;04;11
Craig Andrews
I was like the biggest wedgie I ever had.

00;15;04;13 - 00;15;08;01
Lenora Edwards
Yeah, you gave her a heart attack while you're at it. But yeah,

00;15;08;01 - 00;15;33;28
Lenora Edwards
so especially with the gate belts or even with shorts and grabbing somebody from behind, the intention is to support them. But also in the event that they fall, we have the support person has the ability to help lower them rather than drop them. You want to be able to lower somebody to the bar because it's going to lessen the impact on the joints, and ideally that person will not get hurt if they are successfully lowered.

00;15;34;04 - 00;15;37;25
Lenora Edwards
Verse three for free for all.

00;15;37;27 - 00;15;44;00
Craig Andrews
Yeah, well. And and the beauty is, you know, I've, I've talked about this in the context of dealing with,

00;15;44;00 - 00;16;01;14
Craig Andrews
customers is nobody is perfect in your in their job. And you know once I sat down that was like you just gave me a wedgie and she said, you didn't tell me you're going for the wheelchair. But there's there had been so much trust built.

00;16;01;17 - 00;16;07;14
Craig Andrews
You know, I didn't I wasn't upset, I thought it was funny. It hurt for a little bit. But, you know, I thought it was funny.

00;16;07;14 - 00;16;15;13
Craig Andrews
you know what happened? And it's one of those things that you can totally see happening, but, you know, the environment of trust that had been built,

00;16;15;13 - 00;16;20;28
Craig Andrews
you know, made it so it immediately registered for me that, you know, there was no malice intended.

00;16;20;28 - 00;16;25;08
Craig Andrews
She was to do her job, as she said, her goal is to make sure I didn't,

00;16;25;08 - 00;16;26;22
Craig Andrews
bust up on the floor.

00;16;26;25 - 00;16;31;10
Lenora Edwards
Okay. Very much though, but.

00;16;31;12 - 00;16;43;29
Craig Andrews
So here's, I guess, one of the one of the challenges in kind of turn this around other people is different. People are at different points. And the,

00;16;43;29 - 00;16;54;10
Craig Andrews
you know, and there's some I, I, I'm, I'm thinking of right now, I don't want to say too many details because I don't want out them. One, you know, on the public podcast, but somebody who's just struggling,

00;16;54;10 - 00;16;58;22
Craig Andrews
who's had a TBI and, and is having kind of trouble, I'm sorry.

00;16;58;27 - 00;17;07;19
Craig Andrews
TBI being traumatic brain injury and they're having trouble kind of getting going again. And,

00;17;07;19 - 00;17;25;03
Craig Andrews
you know, you said it's, you know, shocking for me, it's it's like, I don't know what I would have done other than rehab because I wanted to regain my life. But there are other people that are kind of stuck. And what are some of the things that keep them stuck in?

00;17;25;03 - 00;17;29;09
Craig Andrews
How can the people in their lives help them get unstuck?

00;17;29;11 - 00;17;49;04
Lenora Edwards
Some of the things that can keep them stuck is thinking that they can't. And I tend to be a very optimistic person. That being said, there variety of things that come into play the importance of having a supportive network. Truly people saying, I know you're having a tough day. It's okay, we're here for you. We're here to support you.

00;17;49;04 - 00;18;15;05
Lenora Edwards
And literally what you want. Might want to call cheerleaders, literally people in your corner that are constantly cheering you on because that heaviness of being in a brain fog or or having a traumatic brain injury, there are other things going on within that cognitive space, within that individual's cognitive space. And it's also they're getting experiences from medication that they might be on.

00;18;15;08 - 00;18;36;13
Lenora Edwards
They might if they were in the hospital or if they're in rehab, they're not getting the highest quality sleep imaginable. There's lots of different noises. They're not in a familiar space. So allowing them the grace that says, if you're tired, I get it. There are certain times now encouraging them to push through and certain times allowing them. That says, I see you're having a really tough time today.

00;18;36;20 - 00;18;59;19
Lenora Edwards
We're going to pause for a little bit and we're going to come back in an hour, or we're going to come back in two hours and having that relentless determination to really keep encouraging them, to keep moving forward, but also being really curious and noticing. And I love pen and paper. They're phenomenal. Write down what's helping this person write down when they had medication.

00;18;59;19 - 00;19;21;06
Lenora Edwards
Write down what else went on the day in the day because you'll start to see patterns of hey, today was a great day and you might know this. You might have had a phenomenal day, might have walked five ten feet and oh my gosh, this is extraordinary. For the next two days, you could have been completely zonked because of how much energy it took to execute on that day of walking 5 to 10ft.

00;19;21;09 - 00;19;49;23
Lenora Edwards
That can really happen. And tracking down. Okay, well, why were they tired today? Why are they stuck today? What else is going on? And not being sure of where this person is in in their life of what they're experiencing with traumatic brain injury, but also recognizing the brain is healing brain in the body. They're going through an extraordinary amount of effort to keep your system balanced, to bring what I often say back online, to bring everything back to this normal level as much as I could.

00;19;49;23 - 00;20;05;11
Lenora Edwards
In addition to digesting your food, helping to make sure that you're going to the bathroom doing its best to get sleep. There are so many things that are going on that we do need to acknowledge that it's not just about their willpower. They're not just having a, you know,

00;20;05;11 - 00;20;10;08
Lenora Edwards
they're just not in the mood and they're trying to aggravate you for whatever reason that they can't rally.

00;20;10;08 - 00;20;45;02
Lenora Edwards
It's not that to really allow this person the space that says they're having a tough time, I'm still going to support them no matter what. And it's going to take a lot from the individual that's cheering them on from the outside. It's going to take a lot of encouragement, but also needing you to step back and knowing when to put another person in that space because you as that individual, you love them so much and you want them to help themselves so much, and then you might get frustrated when you think that they're not pushing themselves hard enough.

00;20;45;04 - 00;21;05;25
Lenora Edwards
So you, as that person need need to have that reflection that says, okay, I need to step back because I'm getting angry with them and I'm adding to the situation that's not going to be in their best benefit. So it's having that balance of knowing to encourage and knowing that you yourself need to take that break.

00;21;05;28 - 00;21;33;16
Craig Andrews
You know, and as you're talking it, one of the things that brings out that was my realization in the hospital is the it seems like the title speech therapist is woefully short of the range of the job. And because and just so that some folks now, as far as I can tell, at least from my experience in the speech therapist that I dealt with, yeah, they're responsible for speech.

00;21;33;16 - 00;21;36;24
Craig Andrews
And I, you know, they gave me some exercises to redevelop,

00;21;36;24 - 00;21;38;29
Craig Andrews
my my speech.

00;21;38;29 - 00;21;53;26
Craig Andrews
my mouth had gotten mangled by the ventilator, and so that was impairing my speech. But they had me do some other things. But it wasn't just speech. It's also swallowing. And you've talked a little bit about that, but it's not just speech and swallowing.

00;21;53;28 - 00;22;20;03
Craig Andrews
it hit me that speech therapist are also trying to figure out what's going on in the mind. And I realized one day I was listening to the questions my speech therapist was asking me, and I realized she was trying to figure out if I needed a psychiatric referral. And so speech therapy, it really encompasses a lot, especially understanding how you know where they are, where their brain function is at this point.

00;22;20;06 - 00;22;38;25
Lenora Edwards
Very much so. And a lot of the time people hear the title speech therapist and they're like, oh, how's my speech? Am I am I saying my sounds correctly? And I often say, yes, you sounds are quite correct. But we also work from the neck and up. So we do work with breathing and vocal quality, especially the fact that you were on a ventilator and also had a trick at one point.

00;22;38;28 - 00;23;04;24
Lenora Edwards
The fact that you did, there's a lot going on. So think about that. You had a breathing tube at one point which went through two very, very, very, very gentle pieces of tissue that really could not get damaged. If they do get damaged, they're not always very strong in their recovery. Then you had a whole nother breathing apparatus placed to help you breathe without having it to go through your mouth, so that had to recover.

00;23;04;26 - 00;23;26;09
Lenora Edwards
Then also, when it comes to swallowing, your tongue is involved. You have a variety of throat muscles that are involved in that. And when we talk about swallowing, think about the foods. The first one that you got was probably not a T-Bone steak. So the first food that you probably got was likely maybe a mouth swab or a little bit of an ice chip just to see how you would deal with that.

00;23;26;11 - 00;23;47;14
Lenora Edwards
So we do also work on that then. Yes, the intelligibility, because sometimes there is mouth weakness and there sounds might not be as clear. And we also go up to the cognitive component. So if you think about language, the language is actually two parts. Everything that you're listening to is the receptive part of language. Your audience is listening.

00;23;47;14 - 00;24;10;02
Lenora Edwards
They're receiving language, then they're processing it. Then as I'm talking, anytime somebody is talking, this is the expressive part of language I mean, we also get into memory and sequencing and reasoning and are they oriented? Are they able to put together a peanut butter and jelly sandwich? Are they saying sentences that make clear sense or are they grammatically correct?

00;24;10;04 - 00;24;32;07
Lenora Edwards
Or are they saying things that might indicate that they need a psychiatric evaluation? Because I'm not sure where that sentence came from. There's a lot going on, and that's why I really say that it's quite a complex system, and we need to find ways to really be open to where that system is, but also how we can support it.

00;24;32;07 - 00;24;40;26
Lenora Edwards
And it's not always with a pill. It might be with a variety of things that can support.

00;24;40;28 - 00;25;06;05
Craig Andrews
Well, I remember this was before I went to the rehab hospital, and it was within the first two weeks of waking up from the coma, and shortly after they had removed my tray because I could talk, and I started realizing that what I believed about the world when I would say such and such happened, the people around me didn't believe the same thing I believed.

00;25;06;05 - 00;25;18;19
Craig Andrews
And I remember one moment where I realized I was terrified. I was like, I've lost my mind. Yeah, I've lost my mind. And if they figure this out, they're going to take away privileges.

00;25;18;21 - 00;25;19;23
Lenora Edwards
Very scary.

00;25;19;26 - 00;25;34;21
Craig Andrews
Yeah. Yeah yeah. So I started learning how to ask questions to help me figure out what was real and what was not, while hopefully not tipping them off. You know as to what I was doing.

00;25;34;23 - 00;25;57;19
Lenora Edwards
Yeah. Absolutely. And even thinking you know, what's my last name, my middle name, what's my Social security number. What month is it again. What's the day of the week. Every day is the same in hospital settings. Every day is the same in rehab. And it can be very disorienting because you don't have this. You have structure to some extent, which is a great thing.

00;25;57;19 - 00;26;18;07
Lenora Edwards
Your meals come around the clock, but the structure that you have like, oh man, I did laundry and I also clean the bathroom. Tuesday. Oh, I met with so-and-so. It's a completely different structure that you have in the hospital and in a rehab setting. So being able to sort things out and remember what is going on. But also, are you watching a movie on TV?

00;26;18;10 - 00;26;34;26
Lenora Edwards
Is this real? Is this the news that's on TV? What's happening in front of me? There's so much coming at you in the hospital setting or in a rehab setting that it's very easy to get disoriented and to constantly have to be reorient.

00;26;34;29 - 00;26;39;03
Craig Andrews
Well, the moment where it peaked for me was my my brother was visiting and he was,

00;26;39;03 - 00;26;43;25
Craig Andrews
making conversation one day and they talked about last visit to my house.

00;26;43;25 - 00;26;49;29
Craig Andrews
And in my version of reality, he had never been to my house. And,

00;26;49;29 - 00;27;02;13
Craig Andrews
and I know I couldn't blurt out, hey, you've never been to my house. And so I, I asked him, or at least I was afraid if I did, I was like, okay, this is just going to check another box in somebody's checklist that Craig's lost it.

00;27;02;13 - 00;27;06;03
Craig Andrews
Let's take away his car keys or whatever. Obviously I could drive at the,

00;27;06;03 - 00;27;07;00
Craig Andrews
and,

00;27;07;00 - 00;27;18;02
Craig Andrews
so what I did is I asked him, I said, well, when was the last time you were at my house? And he said, I was there last month. When you're on the ventilator and said, well, tell me about your visit. What did you do?

00;27;18;04 - 00;27;40;12
Craig Andrews
And what I was doing was I was getting him to describe my house to me. and as he did, I realized I completely forgotten about my house. In my world, I lived in a fictitious house that never existed, and my house of 17 years. I had completely forgotten. And as he described it, I started slowly remembering the house.

00;27;40;12 - 00;27;41;02
Craig Andrews
And,

00;27;41;02 - 00;27;55;02
Craig Andrews
and that's that's when it became really, really clear to me that I'd been living in a different reality, and I didn't know what was real and what was not.

00;27;55;04 - 00;27;59;29
Lenora Edwards
How do you do when you look at pictures of yourself before?

00;28;00;03 - 00;28;02;10
Craig Andrews
You mean back then or now?

00;28;02;13 - 00;28;03;04
Lenora Edwards
Before?

00;28;03;04 - 00;28;10;03
Lenora Edwards
Before everything. So, like pictures from 2018, 2017. Do you recognize them? Do you remember them? Do you remember certain things?

00;28;10;04 - 00;28;14;29
Craig Andrews
Oh, I see where you're going. Yeah, I, I did most I've been able to reconnect most of my memories.

00;28;14;29 - 00;28;17;06
Craig Andrews
every now and then,

00;28;17;06 - 00;28;28;13
Craig Andrews
I'll meet somebody that, you know, maybe I met once or twice in the past and I've forgotten them. but immersed in my memories are back, and,

00;28;28;13 - 00;28;32;01
Craig Andrews
now the sense of time can be confusing.

00;28;32;03 - 00;28;36;06
Craig Andrews
You know, things that happened leading up to my coma,

00;28;36;06 - 00;28;39;10
Craig Andrews
and and even mostly things leading up to the coma,

00;28;39;10 - 00;28;48;09
Craig Andrews
placing those in time is can be very hard. Yeah, for sure, but it's not that I don't remember. I just don't remember where they happened in time.

00;28;48;12 - 00;29;19;22
Lenora Edwards
I've heard explained it in a few different ways also from especially people who have an accident. They, it depends on, on your school of thought and they'll say if you had an accident, your brain didn't capture it to transfer it long enough to short term memory. Now the school of thought is because it was so intense it captured it, but it won't actually release it to you because it's for your own safety, because the subconscious is working to protect you so that you don't recall this information unless absolutely necessary.

00;29;19;24 - 00;29;56;21
Lenora Edwards
So unless, for example, if I put people through a regression process or if I'm asking them certain questions and the memory very specifically for me, I happen to have a certification and an amazing technique which extraordinarily helped my life, called holographic memory resolution. And in that thought process, your nervous system going through an event and as your nervous system gets to what we call T minus one t -one millisecond, it will take this event and it will capture all of this information, and it will store it in your nervous system, because your nervous system remembers and captures everything.

00;29;56;24 - 00;30;14;04
Lenora Edwards
And then it will also connect it in a certain way and also store it in a certain way. That being said, it will take the information. It may or may not release it to you, depending on who you are and if you need it, and then you'll go forward in time. So there's lots of different ways of looking at it.

00;30;14;04 - 00;30;30;17
Lenora Edwards
And do I need to remember it, does it absolutely necessary and what else goes into it. But that's what I was asking very specifically about your memory. What has come back to you, what isn't quite there? Are you okay with it? And how you navigate the world in that way?

00;30;30;19 - 00;30;49;09
Craig Andrews
You know, the more bizarre thing that happened? I don't know if this is a memory issue, but it taps into some of what you're saying. So when I was in my coma, I have what I call dreams. Dreams is, you know, it's an imperfect term because it's really a state somewhere between, you know, consciousness and,

00;30;49;09 - 00;30;55;05
Craig Andrews
you know, the darkness and, and reality came into my dreams.

00;30;55;05 - 00;31;13;08
Craig Andrews
I've been able to go back through my wife's journal. She journal going carrying bridges way of updating friends and family. And so I, I can point to specific dreams. And like I look at her journal, I'm like, okay, this dream happened on this day because my dreams are reflection, reality. So here's an example of one.

00;31;13;08 - 00;31;23;09
Craig Andrews
I know when they removed my feeding tubes, I originally had a feeding tube through the nose, and eventually they put in the peg to which she had identified in that photo.

00;31;23;11 - 00;31;32;14
Craig Andrews
And for those who don't know, a peg tube goes sort of straight into the stomach feeding tube. goes through the nose. Well, the dream I was having,

00;31;32;14 - 00;31;45;12
Craig Andrews
when they were removing that was I was up in the North Carolina mountains in sort of an agrarian community. And the patriarch of that community who worked in the sawmill, died suddenly.

00;31;45;15 - 00;32;02;29
Craig Andrews
And they had to get him out of that valley. And somehow I was attached to him with a cable going through my nose, and they lifted us up out of the valley. And that cable ran through my nose, through the entire left until we were out of the valley.

00;32;02;29 - 00;32;07;25
Craig Andrews
and then they put me on a stretcher on a train.

00;32;07;27 - 00;32;16;04
Craig Andrews
And that train took me to Harpers Ferry, West Virginia, where I was transferred to a weird medical commune.

00;32;17;14 - 00;32;28;13
Craig Andrews
Okay. All those are reflections or how my brain interpreted what was going on. I'm clearly the cable through the nose. They're moving my feet. And,

00;32;28;13 - 00;32;30;00
Craig Andrews
the day guy,

00;32;30;00 - 00;32;34;17
Craig Andrews
coincidentally, the number of people that died around me matched the number of people that died in my dreams.

00;32;34;19 - 00;32;35;20
Lenora Edwards
I believe it.

00;32;35;22 - 00;32;42;23
Craig Andrews
And I think what happened was that particular day, it was, you know, I was obviously I was on the way to the E.R.,

00;32;42;23 - 00;32;49;14
Craig Andrews
to get the feeding tube removed and either in the E.R. or in transit. Somebody was talking about somebody who died.

00;32;49;16 - 00;33;07;23
Lenora Edwards
yeah. I also think that, you know, the subconscious is constantly picking up information constantly. It's always online. And how it communicated to you what was going on was in metaphors. And that's the interpretation that you received. And that's a very phenomenal thing if you think about it like.

00;33;07;26 - 00;33;19;02
Craig Andrews
Wow, yeah, that's wild. Yeah, yeah. And there was some mix up. I don't know what happened.

00;33;19;02 - 00;33;28;05
Craig Andrews
but I was not I was not where I was supposed to be or somebody was moving me where they weren't because there was some discussion around me.

00;33;28;05 - 00;33;42;20
Craig Andrews
and the place where the discussion took place in my world was, you know, so my part of the staff that was on the train and they're talking about where they were versus where they were supposed to be, what they were allowed to do versus what they weren't.

00;33;42;22 - 00;33;51;07
Craig Andrews
And so my guess is maybe they brought me into the early or late or, you know, who knows? something like that.

00;33;51;09 - 00;33;53;21
Lenora Edwards
Yeah. Amazing.

00;33;53;24 - 00;33;57;05
Craig Andrews
Yeah. So let's get back to other people.

00;33;57;05 - 00;34;05;03
Craig Andrews
the well, let me, let me recount one thing that happened. So in the L tac, which was sort of the step down, you know,

00;34;05;03 - 00;34;08;22
Craig Andrews
you know, where where I, they woke me up from the coma and,

00;34;08;22 - 00;34;23;17
Craig Andrews
started getting me back on some semblance of food, which was, I think, liquids, but I remember it was a few days after that picture was taken that you saw with,

00;34;24;13 - 00;34;45;20
Craig Andrews
And it hit me, you know, as my mind was coming back online, and I'm starting to realize what my future look like. I was in constant pain, I couldn't walk, I couldn't do anything for myself. And I remember one morning I realized, okay, tomorrow, constant pain. I won't be able to walk. I won't be able to do anything.

00;34;45;20 - 00;34;58;29
Craig Andrews
Day after that constant pain. I won't be able to walk, won't be able to do anything. I started spiraling down. I mean, I was headed for a very, very dark place, and I remember catching myself and

00;34;58;29 - 00;35;06;25
Craig Andrews
it hit me. I was like, Craig, if you let your mind go here, you won't be able to accomplish what you need to do.

00;35;06;27 - 00;35;22;27
Craig Andrews
Turn around, come back. And I am so thankful that by that afternoon I was able to get back into a better headspace. But I don't think everybody can make that turn for me.

00;35;22;27 - 00;35;40;13
Lenora Edwards
I think it's extraordinary that you did so when it comes to the subconscious, and I teach this to my clients and students, your subconscious mind is talking to you, and we have that ability to talk to the subconscious. It's just that nobody really told us how this is happening. what does it look like when we're talking with our subconscious?

00;35;40;16 - 00;36;03;08
Lenora Edwards
It often answers first you will feel like you're making it up, and it will answer quietly. And it's a very gentle voice when it comes from your subconscious. You can, even if you like. You can also get into a perspective of a higher self or a guardian, whatever you want to call it. I kind of, when breaking it down this way, I just kind of lump it all together in the subconscious mind.

00;36;03;08 - 00;36;28;15
Lenora Edwards
Something else is helping you having that version that says you're going this way. This is a very dark place. You want to come back. That is an extraordinary thing to notice, to recall, and to be able to recognize that somebody, something, whatever you want to call it, was quite literally going, no, no, not that way. Come this way, come this way.

00;36;28;17 - 00;36;59;03
Lenora Edwards
Because and also for me, what you did was you future paced yourself that said tomorrow pain not going to be able to walk that up the next day. Pain not be able to walk. You projected your mind into the future. That said, if I keep doing this, this is the path that I will be looking at. And somebody on that other end, whoever was guarding you, whether it was your higher self or an angel, whatever you'd like to call it, however you like to label it, like I said, quite literally said to you, no, no, don't go that way, come this way.

00;36;59;05 - 00;37;20;23
Lenora Edwards
And in that moment you made a choice and you continued to make the next choice and the next choice that said, okay, I'm going to try this, okay, I'm going to do this, I'm going to do this. And being able to recognize every single moment, you are making a choice to choose your health, your vitality, your care, putting you first, whatever you'd like to call it.

00;37;20;25 - 00;37;40;23
Lenora Edwards
You're making two choices. One is going to support you. One is not going to support you. This 1 or 1 is going to support you for the better. One is going to support you for the less and better. You made a choice to keep going forward. Keep going in the positive direction, to keep going in the way that quite literally said, I want to live and not just live.

00;37;40;25 - 00;38;03;00
Lenora Edwards
I want to live. I want to thrive. I want to be able to walk again. I want to be able to drive. I want my life back. I want to create this life for myself every single moment. You decided right foot by foot, spoon my mouth to swallow. That was you making a choice that said, let's keep going, let's keep going.

00;38;03;03 - 00;38;18;07
Lenora Edwards
And that's why I say it's extraordinary to build yourself back from where you were. Oh my God. Huge. Yeah. Anybody who does something like that, it's amazing.

00;38;18;09 - 00;38;28;14
Craig Andrews
Well, and it's our tie. It's not a at least for me. It's not a journey. That server once once we're done recording, the next thing on my calendar is I'm gone for a run.

00;38;28;14 - 00;38;37;16
Craig Andrews
my goal is to be able to run one mile, and this sounds ridiculous. I used to run three miles in the Texas Hill country in the Texas heat.

00;38;37;19 - 00;39;13;21
Craig Andrews
You know, my goal is to be able to run one mile nonstop on fairly flat land. And the you know, the thing that's hard for people to appreciate is if if I don't control my mind, if I let you know, if I get anxious while I'm running, my oxygen consumption goes up, my respiration goes up. And it's not just that my respiration goes up, it's I get to a point where I feel like I'm suffocating and and as soon as my mind crosses that threshold, it's really hard for me to keep running.

00;39;13;23 - 00;39;29;21
Craig Andrews
and so it's, it's not a choice that, you know, was made three years ago, you know, or approaching three years ago, as I was waking up from the coma. And it's just an ongoing choice that. Okay,

00;39;29;21 - 00;39;40;07
Craig Andrews
today I'm going to take another step, closer. I'm going to do something that's going to bring me step closer to who I used to be.

00;39;40;09 - 00;40;04;04
Lenora Edwards
Absolutely. One of the specialties that I help people with are their inner voices. And for me, I had a very, very difficult time with an inner critic. And I when you said at the very beginning, everybody goes through something and I could not agree more with you. I spent more than two decades battling an eating disorder and emotional eating and hiding it beautifully.

00;40;04;07 - 00;40;22;26
Lenora Edwards
And every single person that knew me, and in that I had become very, very, very well known with my inner critic. And I finally came to the point, and I shared this in my Ted talks on how to stop the negative voices in your head. And that's literally what the TEDx is called. And I share with people this moment.

00;40;22;28 - 00;40;44;11
Lenora Edwards
when I was sitting in the dentist chair and I had refused the entire time that I was going through this to reach out to anybody for help, adamantly refused what if sooner taken it to the grave. And I was in the dentist chair getting another false tooth as a result of having an eating disorder. And I thought I heard a voice just like you.

00;40;44;13 - 00;41;07;06
Lenora Edwards
Maybe there's something you just don't know yet. I was working so hard to help myself through YouTube, books, self-help, community, everything. And yet I still would take two steps forward, three steps back. I could not break this cycle that I was in. And when I heard, maybe there's something you just don't know yet, I finally decided to reach out for help.

00;41;07;09 - 00;41;28;09
Lenora Edwards
And in that, realizing that the negative voices are often messengers and they were wanting to share information with you. So a variety of things that I teach my clients, I'm going to share two of them with you, as one is they're both happened to me right on the hand. And to get in a mantra or to get in a rhythm of saying something.

00;41;28;09 - 00;41;51;16
Lenora Edwards
And the reason I have it on the hand is because for me, I usually have my hand with me, and it can be something as simple as I choose me now, I am safe here and whatever forward phrase. And for the audience that's listening. As I'm connecting my thumb with my index finger, I thumb with my middle finger, my thumb with my ring finger, and then my thumb with my pinky finger and each word.

00;41;51;16 - 00;42;16;23
Lenora Edwards
That's why it's a forward phrase. I index finger, choose middle finger, ring finger. Me. This is the ring finger. Now is my pinky finger. So whatever for we for phrase you'd like to choose. You can create your own and allow it to be something that supports you in that moment. And the reason it's so important is because that negative voice just wants to let you know something is just wanting to share with you.

00;42;16;26 - 00;42;38;00
Lenora Edwards
And if you can either do another technique that I'm going to teach you, or you can just jump into a mantra, something to get get you out of that state and into a new one, and remind yourself how far you've come. And the other one that I will actually share with you. And I'll have a Craig put it here in the notes for the show notes.

00;42;38;00 - 00;42;54;25
Lenora Edwards
And this one is called the shift protocol. And this is I actually just came back from a conference in Vegas teaching this. And it's called the shift protocol. So when it comes to your negative thoughts and five we're going to go with our fingers. So shift you want to spot the negative thought. You want to hear it okay.

00;42;54;28 - 00;43;00;23
Lenora Edwards
So you have to have the awareness oh man I can't do this okay great. So you're going to spot it.

00;43;00;23 - 00;43;18;09
Lenora Edwards
That's on your thumb. You're going to hear it. Whose voice is it. Is it your voice somebody else's voice. Sometimes it can be an echo of somebody else telling you that you can't do this. And that's okay. So you're going to investigate it.

00;43;18;11 - 00;43;28;18
Lenora Edwards
Is this thought serving you? Is it helping you? That's an I an f we're going to look for. We're going to frame it. We're going to look for something that says is this always true?

00;43;29;06 - 00;43;45;17
Lenora Edwards
Probably not. It hasn't always been true. And then we're going to trade it in. We're going to trade it in from more supportive thought. I'm choosing to know that I can do this right now, choosing to know that I can run this cell. I am choosing to take care of my body right now, every way you'd like to do it.

00;43;45;19 - 00;43;48;25
Lenora Edwards
But what you're doing in that moment is you're not

00;43;48;25 - 00;44;08;10
Lenora Edwards
going the negative voice, you're acknowledging that inner critic, and you're acknowledging it in such a way that says, hey, see you. It's okay, I see you. Okay. You're going to shift it. You're going to spot it. So S's first spot H is for here. I is for investigate. Is it helping you.

00;44;08;10 - 00;44;29;16
Lenora Edwards
Is it not helping you? F is for framing it. You're going to choose a thought that says hey has always been true. Probably not. And then T traded in for something else. When you hear those negative voices, allow yourself to have that conversation with it and says, no, not true, I hear you, but I can choose a different thought.

00;44;29;19 - 00;44;42;21
Lenora Edwards
And that is choosing your thoughts on command. And that gives you power, gives you control, gives you the choice. It says, I can choose that one, or I could choose this one.

00;44;42;24 - 00;44;49;11
Craig Andrews
I love that, I love that, you know. And what that that's I mean, that's so amazingly powerful.

00;44;49;11 - 00;45;07;20
Craig Andrews
I really hope people listen to the end, because this is probably the biggest takeaway from the whole thing. And one of the things that's, that's in that, that is people talk about folks being fearless, you know, and I would say if somebody is fearless, they're an idiot.

00;45;07;23 - 00;45;32;08
Craig Andrews
There are things in life that, scare us. I'm more interested in people that are courageous. because courage is taking action in the presence of reasonable fear and when I hear that framework that you just laid out, you're saying, yeah, I see you. There is this voice. There is a real threat here. I acknowledge this threat, but I choose to adopt these thoughts.

00;45;32;11 - 00;45;39;01
Lenora Edwards
I love that you pointed out about fearless because I don't like that word either. I'm very what they would, they would affectionately refer to as weird, sensitive.

00;45;39;01 - 00;45;54;15
Lenora Edwards
when we think fearless and and one of my teachers pointed this out so beautifully. Fearless. I've never met a soldier that has gone running into war without fear, but I've met a whole lot of courageous ones, and that stands out.

00;45;54;18 - 00;46;10;20
Lenora Edwards
They had the courage. They had fear. They had the courage to pursue. You don't want to be fearless. You want to be courageous. A fear is a good thing. It helps you determine if there is a threat or not. Encourage allows you exactly. Courage allows you to acknowledge your threat and move forward.

00;46;10;22 - 00;46;27;29
Craig Andrews
Yeah, yeah. So I mean, back to running. One of my fears. I measure my oxygen as soon as I stop running. Yeah, sometimes it's in the 70s and so fear of my O2 going to low and passing out on the street is probably a good thing.

00;46;28;01 - 00;46;40;09
Lenora Edwards
But the thing you want to be aware of it that. So notice what you put in place though. So now you carry that with you. You know your body, you know your strategies. That gives you the courage to go out and do it. And that's a great thing.

00;46;40;12 - 00;47;02;08
Craig Andrews
Yeah. Well this has just been so incredibly powerful. What would be. So a couple things. One, I want one. Make sure people know how to reach you. But what would be a parting thought that you have for somebody who's either they feel stuck where they are or they have a somebody they care about deeply, that stuck. What would be your parting thought and how can they reach you?

00;47;02;10 - 00;47;09;17
Lenora Edwards
A parting thought for somebody who feels stuck, and for somebody who feels that their loved one is stuck? My parting thought would be,

00;47;09;17 - 00;47;28;28
Lenora Edwards
what? What's hilarious is that it's one of my passwords. It's keep going, keep going, keep going, keep choosing more supportive thought. Keep choosing the the supportive, encouraging voice in your head that says, it's okay.

00;47;29;01 - 00;47;50;17
Lenora Edwards
Keep going. Go with that one. Run with that one, because that's going to support you in finding solutions and finding ways to love people, and finding ways to support people and finding ways to support yourself and to help yourself. The more you can help yourself, more you can help others. And that's a beautiful thing.

00;47;50;19 - 00;47;53;25
Craig Andrews
Wow. That's great. And how can people reach you?

00;47;53;27 - 00;48;11;00
Lenora Edwards
The best way to reach me is at my website and it's titled in DTB horizons. So D as in determined T as in to B and and B horizons.com determined to be horizons.

00;48;11;03 - 00;48;23;06
Craig Andrews
Well Norah thank you for sharing this. This is I hate to see people stuck and I feel like you gave people real powerful tools to break free. Thank you for sharing that and leaders and legacies.

00;48;23;08 - 00;48;28;18
Lenora Edwards
Thank you so much for having me, Greg. I.

00;48;28;18 - 00;48;55;12
Craig Andrews
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Craig Andrews
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Craig Andrews
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Craig Andrews
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Craig Andrews
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